Interview of Tiombe Jama by Meda Okelo. Topics include: arriving in EPA in 1977 from Philadelphia; incorporation efforts; why she came to EPA; Nobantu Ankoanda; Nairobi Day School and Gertrude Wilks; becoming principal at Malcolm X school in San Francisco; local businesses closing in the late 70s; her children growing up in EPA and attending Black schools; transitioning from Shule’s to charter schools; son attending Costano School and Menlo-Atherton; coming back to EPA after living in Oakland for two years; incorporation efforts with Gertrude Wilks and John Bostic opposed; crime, and especially drugs, in 1992; her thoughts on corruption; incident when a kid was electrocuted climbing a PG&E tower; the establishment of a Boy Scouts Program and Sister Mahasid who coordinated it; United Mothers Against Drugs; Mothers on a Mission to Save our Children (MOMS), thoughts on developing children; notable people; and her vision for EPA.